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return to the natural order when you

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change the intention you get a very

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different pattern you see in effect when

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the water is treated but you don't see

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in effect directly when this intention

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is directed toward toward the tumor

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cells now we can discuss this and I'm

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not really sure this is a real anomaly

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for me this is not at all what I

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expected so this can't be an

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experimenter effect and this effect was

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seen with with the loving intention and

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it was seen with the dematerialization

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intention but it was not obtained with

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the return to the natural order so this

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phenomenon is at this point completely

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unexplained I really don't have an

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explanation other than to say that

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certainly intentions resonate with water

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in a different way and can be stored in

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a different way and therefore have and

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can be read by the biological system in

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a different way so this is you know

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preliminary experiments which is the

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whole purpose of being in this kind of

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society this is unpublished data but

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there's clearly is a defect on the

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different intentions so that is my

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conclusion that the healing effects can

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be direct or they can be indirect that

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water seems to mediate the effects water

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in this case is storing the information

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and the treatment time is over 15

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minutes as I said but the biological

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system is reading the information stored

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in the water over 24 hour period because

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the growth period was over a 24-hour

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period it seems that some intentions are

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quite effective and some are not

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effective there's a difference between

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direct and indirect and it seems that

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there's a lot of unknown phenomena

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anomalous phenomena occurring okay since

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I do have a couple more minutes I want

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to address the possible mechanisms how

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this phenomena could

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be occurring now water memory is

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actually it's controversial but there is

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some scientific literature that water

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can remember heat exposure that's

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thermal memory and that's known that the

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vibration and rotation modes of the

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water molecules can store heat energy

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ultraviolet energy can be stored in

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electron transitions of the water

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molecule there's even a phenomenal

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hydration memory which is in the

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scientific literature published in

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peer-reviewed journals in this case the

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has been done with enzymes and

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particular chemicals that are added to

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the water that affects the enzymes the

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the result in effect on the enzyme

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activity it has more to do with the

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ability of the chemical to structure the

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water than it does with the chemical

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structure of the additive which is a

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interesting phenomenon so in additional

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to the traditional mechanisms we have

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non traditional mechanisms and we've

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talked really hurt a little bit about

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the hydrogen bond this afternoon which

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is which allows water to form clusters

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and this is one possible mechanism

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except for the fact that these clusters

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kind of disappear and disappear and

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flicker on and off so if the information

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was to be stored in the structure as

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soon as the structure dissipates you

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would think the information would just

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dissipate along with it so I'm not sure

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that's the best of explanations there

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are various other explanations I think

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the most likely explanation is the one

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that was proposed by del Giudice a

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couple of years ago where he described

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quantum domains in water so in addition

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to having these structural clusters of

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water we have quantum domains which are

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described in terms of quantum fields

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within the quantum domains and coherent

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oscillations between the coherent

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domains so it seems to me that that's

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one likely possible explanation because

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of the quantum nature of consciousness

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so I'm throwing that out as

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possible mechanisms there are other

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mechanisms involved these

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superconducting filaments and solo times

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and for all the physicists in the

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audience obviously there are a lot of

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theories out but very little bit of

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correlation between the theory and the

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experimental data since I have 30

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seconds left I want to thank you for

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your time that's it okay so we really

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have five minutes um has anyone looked

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at the investigated the the law the

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other logical possibility that distant

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intentional effects on tumor growth

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could be in negative direction and to

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increase the tumor growth rate yes from

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other experiments that I've done with

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with the same healer where we were more

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focusing on direct experiments these

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were not actually done at a distance

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they were done in the lab and the healer

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just laid his hands on the water but

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depending on his intention yes he could

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inhibit the growth if he visualized the

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end point was you know fewer cells in

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the petri dish the actual growth was uh

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I mean more especially the opposite more

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cells he could actually stimulate the

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growth as well as inhibit the growth

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depending on the intention a Glen two

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quick questions um could you comment on

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the level of purity the water a and B

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the second question is what hydration

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memory be most like a homeopathic

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dilution well first question is easy it

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was deionized water standard laboratory

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water that we use to measure to use to

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make tissue culture medium hydration

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memory and homeopathy hmm I have to

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think about that it yeah I hadn't

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actually thought about that but that's a

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very feasible explanation because it's

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the presence of the chemical which

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actually structures the water and then

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has a result in effect

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so yes that that's a very feasible

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mechanism for homeopathy a question if I

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understand correctly you've shown that

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intention affects the structure of water

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right and you've also shown in other

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experiments that intention applied to

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water or to a subject effects a healing

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or produces healing an effect on the

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biological system correct but the so the

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question still remains is that the

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structure in the water that produces the

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healing when that water is is given to

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the what needs to be healed or is it

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just a direct effect of that intention

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and the water could have been applying

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the intention to that lamp instead and

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it still would have healed that person

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so it seems to me the way to really

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prove that it's the water structure that

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has done the healing and not just the

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intention directly would be to show for

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example that the degradation of the

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structure in the water correlates in

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time with the degradation of the healing

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power or something like that has

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anything like that been done the degra

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we don't know how long it lasts in

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compared to the electromagnetic exposure

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which we know lasts about 20 minutes to

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a half an hour have I looked at that

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much the no III do not know how long it

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lasts and I have not made any such

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correlations and no nobody has done

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those kind of experiments and a few

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scientists who do these kind of

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experiments usually our first looking at

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the phenomenological aspects of it you

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know the phenomena is you know that

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water seems to be able to carry the

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information of intent and once you have

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that phenomena then you can go into much

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more details the first attempt at even

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looking at the mechanism is to say is

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there a structural change in the water

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that correlates with the storage of the

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information so that's the first attempt

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and obviously there's a lot more

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experiments to do glenwood to share with

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us the difference between the Sham

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healing of the water as well as the

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cells I didn't see

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that clearly represented in your slides

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maybe I missed something okay the the

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experiment the tumor cells were split

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into two batches of cells six petry

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dishes and six patrie dishes and I had a

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second person independently bring the

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dishes to the healer in one room and the

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the non healer in another room and then

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they for during the 15-minute period you

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know the healer did his intention thing

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and the non healer well actually I

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didn't mention that but in some

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experiments I actually had the non

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healer read a book so that they were the

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results all the Sham healing that was my

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question I understood the method yeah oh

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sorry there well the data was presented

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as the as the per the percent inhibition

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and oh IC relative to the control yeah I

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with the Sham healer compared to the

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lender Glasgow right the magnitude of

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the effect was taken into account and I